I found this little word salad whilst perusing the blogs at Patheos Nonreligious; the post taking this one down didn’t directly link to Tim Bayly’s original post in question. Before you ask: no, there will be no link to the primary post; I have copied and pasted everything here, so there isn’t a major need for that. With that said, it wasn’t terribly difficult to find this.
Now, if this isn’t your thing, I’d say not to follow along after the jump. If it is, then continue onward into “WTF-is-this-ville”.
We start off with a picture of a pair of four month old, very white and perfect looking babies on a rug, presumably playing. Because no other infants in the world exist other than cute, chubby white ones that have zero genetic defects. At least, that is the narrative here. But then it gets worse, because here’s the caption beneath that photo:
The babies pictured above are around four months old. Both are much younger than the babies University Hospitals killed by their negligence. Much younger than the dead babies whose fathers and mothers were paying to keep them imprisoned in University Hospitals’ freezer.
Also, “paying to keep them imprisoned”? Really? What, is he upset that the agency of embryos isn’t being respected? Because it’s an embryo and it’s not being imprisoned. The adults involved with this process are the ones who made that decision because they are capable of doing so.
I’m tempted to call this “silly,” but really it’s intensely evil. You’ll remember a couple weeks ago we called for Christian couples to volunteer to adopt infants who were accidentally thawed and now would die unless some godly woman offered her womb as a home to the poor child? One or two readers responded.
Apparently, Bayly put out an APB, looking for women to lend out their uteri in order to take some of the now unfrozen embryos and adopt them.
It seems he didn’t get such a great response. Think about that a second. Because it sounds like a good number in the “pro-life” movement are willing to talk the talk, but to hell with walking the walk. It isn’t their embryo, so to hell with it. We go on:
But nevermind that. The CEO of Cleveland’s University Hospitals, Tom Zentry, just issued this statement:
“My thoughts and heart immediately went out to our patients. This was overwhelming news for them, women and men who counted on us.”
First off, notice how he hand waves that away? “Oh, no big deal that no one came rushing forward to save these poor little children. We’re just going to ignore that. Nah, what we’re really gonna do here is dog pile on the hospital and the CEO. Because it’s that guy’s fault, is what!” But it keeps getting better:
Is there any Christian at University Hospitals who can call for this man to be fired? How cruel can he be? Tactless or unfeeling don’t begin to touch it.
“Tactless or unfeeling” would have been–oh, I don’t know–not saying anything. “Overwhelming” might not have been my choice of verbiage, either but sometimes people lack decent terminology when something like this happens. Some people find it difficult to find the right words when something incredibly tragic happens.
“Overwhelming news?” I get it. Some people might be comfortable calling death “overwhelming,” but what about the poor parents of these babies who had paid many thousands of dollars to keep their little ones alive in the freezer? Does anyone really think they are comforted by Mr. Zenty speaking of their children as receiving “overwhelming news” that they were about to thaw out with no womb to receive them, and thus would die?
Okay, let’s go ahead and be honest here; what was in the freezer wasn’t just a bunch of embryos. There were also eggs. As in unfertilized eggs. You know, like the sort of thing that decides to head into my uterus once a month and gets flushed out because menstruation, which is natural.
If Bayly considers that a baby, then we have a major problem.
Yes yes, I know. Mr. Zenty isn’t speaking of his “patients” being the little babies. He means their parents. But in fact, their parents were not under Mr. Zenty’s care as patients in his hospital.
The little babies were.
I’m willing to bet that most of those “little babies” looked like this:
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; human embryos just aren’t all that cute. Now turtle embryos? Those little guys are adorable. But I digress.
The point I’m trying to make here is that this is not a “little baby”. There is the potential here for this to become a baby, yes, but it isn’t close to that yet. There is a lot more development needed to get to that point. Ten to one that’s why the clinic froze them at that particular stage or one close to it. And again, it bears repeating: some weren’t even at this stage yet. Some were eggs. They didn’t even look anywhere close to the above picture, yet Bayly is lumping them in with six-month-olds as if they are all the exact same thing.
But the biggest thing: the ones who were being treated by the hospital were the adults. They were the ones going through painful fertility treatments in order to have a chance at conceiving a child. The embryos weren’t really patients in the hospital at all. They wouldn’t have been until they were born.
For some reason that escapes me (although I’m thinking it might have something to do with abortion), Mr. Zenty’s heart didn’t go out to the innocent little children who actually died, but only their parents who had hired their prison guards and expected them to stop just short of killing them. Keep them frozen for an eternity, but don’t let them thaw.
No, no “children” died. These were embryos and hell, some were simply eggs. To be completely blunt, this was genetic material.
Or to put it another way: should I wear black every month during my cycle? Because that could have been a potential little baby and nature decided to let it die.
Now, it does massively suck for the living members of those families. Some of the women had cancer, which is why the froze their eggs. They were hoping to have a child after cancer treatments and that was taken from them. The CEO was correct in addressing the families, because they were the ones that were affected. Those embryos had no idea what was going on at that point. At that stage, I don’t even know if any of them would have any sort of primary brain function, let alone anything more advanced.
The eggs? Well, they wouldn’t know what was going on because they are not even close to sapient, let alone sentient.
This is the insanity of our world today, and we take it in stride. I’ll bet no one at University Hospitals even objected to Mr. Zenty’s callous disregard of the children. No trustee. No doc. No nurse. Not even an orderly, guard, or parking attendant.
Again, there weren’t any children, at least, not yet. There were potential children. In some cases, there was genetic material, waiting to be fertilized.
That’s the real insanity here. Rather than extend some sympathy to the families, Bayly would rather bemoan the loss of eggs and embryos. Instead of asking, what happening and how can we fix this, he’d rather try and paint this with the same broad brush as abortion. Somehow, this was “killing innocent little babies” when some of those “innocent little babies” hadn’t yet been truly conceived.
Does the CEO of the hospital deserve criticism? In a word, yes. Mistakes were made and someone has to be held accountable for them because this affects real, living people. There are women who won’t be able to have children because of this. There are women who had hoped to start a family but saw those hopes shattered. Rather than trying to help these families, Bayly saw fit to push forward an agenda.
That’s extraordinarily tragic. Someone needs to thaw out his heart before he comments on things like this.